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	<title>Comments on: Mutual Assured Destruction: Not the Answer to Med Mal Crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Keeping Patients Quiet - Better Health</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeping Patients Quiet - Better Health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in healthcare. The company “Medical Justice” is one such thing. I’ve written about them before. Medical Justice sees the medical malpractice crisis and devised a solution: muzzle the patients. [...]

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		<title>By: Michael Roberts of Rexxfield.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Roberts of Rexxfield.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Online allegations of health care &amp; medical malpractice is a growing problem they will never go away. My wife is a physician and I am actively taking steps to protect her reputation against future threats,  although there has not been any problems to date.

I had a wonderful business utterly destroyed by a malicious antagonist, not to mention relationships, my career, finances, and the livelihood of other people that depended on the success of my business. Thankfully I was able to turn adversity into opportunity in that the business I have subsequently launched specializes in mitigating and remedying the destruction caused by this 21st Century pandemic. In effect, any efforts made by my antagonist to smear me becomes &quot;exhibit A&quot; for why I do what I do.  My antagonist was jailed in May 2009,  if a prison sentence follows things should get a lot quieter.

Physicians and all professionals need to make sure they have a robust online presence. You need to take control of Google search results for your name and the name of your practice. The worst thing you can do is wait for it to happen, it will take many months possibly years to bury offending material. This is compounded by the fact that the ISPs such as Google and other blog hosts have federal immunity from liability. It is a long and costly battle to redeem your name once you have been smeared.

Keep in mind also what is referred to as &quot;The Streisand Effect&quot; this is where the victim of libel or some other online problems caused thousands of times more attention to be drawn to it by picking a fight with the offender. As such, it is much better to &quot;bury&quot; the negative search engine results than to fight them.

Feel free to check out the tips I have posted on my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online allegations of health care &amp; medical malpractice is a growing problem they will never go away. My wife is a physician and I am actively taking steps to protect her reputation against future threats,  although there has not been any problems to date.</p>
<p>I had a wonderful business utterly destroyed by a malicious antagonist, not to mention relationships, my career, finances, and the livelihood of other people that depended on the success of my business. Thankfully I was able to turn adversity into opportunity in that the business I have subsequently launched specializes in mitigating and remedying the destruction caused by this 21st Century pandemic. In effect, any efforts made by my antagonist to smear me becomes &#8220;exhibit A&#8221; for why I do what I do.  My antagonist was jailed in May 2009,  if a prison sentence follows things should get a lot quieter.</p>
<p>Physicians and all professionals need to make sure they have a robust online presence. You need to take control of Google search results for your name and the name of your practice. The worst thing you can do is wait for it to happen, it will take many months possibly years to bury offending material. This is compounded by the fact that the ISPs such as Google and other blog hosts have federal immunity from liability. It is a long and costly battle to redeem your name once you have been smeared.</p>
<p>Keep in mind also what is referred to as &#8220;The Streisand Effect&#8221; this is where the victim of libel or some other online problems caused thousands of times more attention to be drawn to it by picking a fight with the offender. As such, it is much better to &#8220;bury&#8221; the negative search engine results than to fight them.</p>
<p>Feel free to check out the tips I have posted on my website.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctors: Your Patients Are Talking About You &#171; See First Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctors: Your Patients Are Talking About You &#171; See First Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the internet, you simply can&#8217;t squash criticism.  Indeed, in trying, doctors risk not only undermining the trust that is necessary for a good relationship with their patient, but they also miss out on an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evan Falchuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Falchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carol, thank you for your thoughtful comment.

Anonymous libel is tough because you don&#039;t know who is defaming you.  

There&#039;s nothing that stops someone - even someone who signed a form saying they wouldn&#039;t- from anonymously posting on website that &quot;I saw Dr. X and he made a series of racist jokes during my exam.&quot;  If it never happened, it&#039;s defamatory, but you have no idea who said it.  The best you could do is tell the website hosting it that they need to take it down on the basis that they are defaming you, too.  But this has nothing to do with what you have your patients sign.

The more complicated cases are where a patient (anonymously or not) posts something defamatory about you in a way that you can tell who they are.  Can you respond?

The Medical Justice people tell you on their website that privacy laws say you can&#039;t, so you need these agreements to to protect yourself.  But it&#039;s not true.  If the patient voluntarily reveals their information publicly, you can respond, as long as what you say doesn&#039;t reveal any new information.

To take a simple example, imagine a patient visits a doctor and then goes to a website and says &quot;I saw Dr. X for surgery on my elbow, which I broke while rushing to a meeting.  I noticed that he had a diploma on his wall from Harvard, but when I asked him if he went to Harvard he said he had not.  Look out for Dr. X, he lies about his credentials and wants you to think he went to Harvard!&quot;

You would be within your rights to say &quot;Hi, I&#039;m Dr. X.  I remember meeting you and having the conversation about my credentials.  As I told you at the time, that diploma is from the colleague with whom I practice, it isn&#039;t mine.  I am a proud graduate of Yale and would never want anyone to think I went to Harvard.&quot;

While it may be unpleasant to have to deal with this kind of public commentary, in the internet era there is no avoiding it.  No agreement is going to put that genie back in the bottle.  

And so this is why I think these agreements are misguided.  They can have little or no impact on the extent to which people will post lies on the internet, but create a whole new layer of formality and legality into what ought to be a personal relationship.

More broadly, Carol, I agree completely with your point that the bond between patient and doctor ought not be one sided.  Legal agreements won&#039;t get us there.  We need more voices like yours making the point about the importance of the doctor and patient relationship.  Keep the lawyers out of the exam room (well, unless they&#039;re patients!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carol, thank you for your thoughtful comment.</p>
<p>Anonymous libel is tough because you don&#8217;t know who is defaming you.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing that stops someone &#8211; even someone who signed a form saying they wouldn&#8217;t- from anonymously posting on website that &#8220;I saw Dr. X and he made a series of racist jokes during my exam.&#8221;  If it never happened, it&#8217;s defamatory, but you have no idea who said it.  The best you could do is tell the website hosting it that they need to take it down on the basis that they are defaming you, too.  But this has nothing to do with what you have your patients sign.</p>
<p>The more complicated cases are where a patient (anonymously or not) posts something defamatory about you in a way that you can tell who they are.  Can you respond?</p>
<p>The Medical Justice people tell you on their website that privacy laws say you can&#8217;t, so you need these agreements to to protect yourself.  But it&#8217;s not true.  If the patient voluntarily reveals their information publicly, you can respond, as long as what you say doesn&#8217;t reveal any new information.</p>
<p>To take a simple example, imagine a patient visits a doctor and then goes to a website and says &#8220;I saw Dr. X for surgery on my elbow, which I broke while rushing to a meeting.  I noticed that he had a diploma on his wall from Harvard, but when I asked him if he went to Harvard he said he had not.  Look out for Dr. X, he lies about his credentials and wants you to think he went to Harvard!&#8221;</p>
<p>You would be within your rights to say &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m Dr. X.  I remember meeting you and having the conversation about my credentials.  As I told you at the time, that diploma is from the colleague with whom I practice, it isn&#8217;t mine.  I am a proud graduate of Yale and would never want anyone to think I went to Harvard.&#8221;</p>
<p>While it may be unpleasant to have to deal with this kind of public commentary, in the internet era there is no avoiding it.  No agreement is going to put that genie back in the bottle.  </p>
<p>And so this is why I think these agreements are misguided.  They can have little or no impact on the extent to which people will post lies on the internet, but create a whole new layer of formality and legality into what ought to be a personal relationship.</p>
<p>More broadly, Carol, I agree completely with your point that the bond between patient and doctor ought not be one sided.  Legal agreements won&#8217;t get us there.  We need more voices like yours making the point about the importance of the doctor and patient relationship.  Keep the lawyers out of the exam room (well, unless they&#8217;re patients!).</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the author will explain what protection I have against protected anonymous libel on the Internet. I don&#039;t use Medical Justice&#039;s &quot;deterrence plan.&quot;
I don&#039;t need it but understand the reason for its existence. I do use the &quot;mutual privacy agreement&quot; because I have no other defence against internet libel by anonymous bloggers. (If you are an attorney you know this to be true.) Patients are not forced to sign it any more than I am forced to sign a contract with certain protections written into a contract for my lawyer or architect or realtor. They can see another doctor. By the way, I have a large number of patients who are attorneys and not one has objected to signing this document. If the relationship between doctors and patients is different from other relationships and not adversarial then DON&#039;T list me beside plumbers on Angie&#039;s List. The obligations necessary to preserve the important bond of trust between patient and physician should not be one-sided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the author will explain what protection I have against protected anonymous libel on the Internet. I don&#8217;t use Medical Justice&#8217;s &#8220;deterrence plan.&#8221;<br />
I don&#8217;t need it but understand the reason for its existence. I do use the &#8220;mutual privacy agreement&#8221; because I have no other defence against internet libel by anonymous bloggers. (If you are an attorney you know this to be true.) Patients are not forced to sign it any more than I am forced to sign a contract with certain protections written into a contract for my lawyer or architect or realtor. They can see another doctor. By the way, I have a large number of patients who are attorneys and not one has objected to signing this document. If the relationship between doctors and patients is different from other relationships and not adversarial then DON&#8217;T list me beside plumbers on Angie&#8217;s List. The obligations necessary to preserve the important bond of trust between patient and physician should not be one-sided.</p>
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